estimated coordinate error from phenix.refine
Dear all, I would like to know how the estimated coordinate error is calculated in phenix.refine, the one that is written on the pdb file as "ML based". I'm asking due to the following: For example if I am comparing two different models (structures determined at 2.1 and 2 Angstroms) but one does have a coordinate error estimate of 0.25 Angstroms and the other one of 0.6, respectively. Is the first model more reliable? The second one is reliable too but my question points towards how conservative or how more conservative should I be when describing distances , potential H bonds, coordination. Despite those different numbers in estimated coordinate error, the electron density maps look very similar or almost the same for both structures, very clear and complete at 2 Angstroms. That's why I was somehow surprised to find these difference. Thank you very much in advance Best Almudena -- Dr. Almudena Ponce-Salvatierra EMBL-European Molecular Biology Laboratory 71, avenue des Martyrs - CS 90181 F - 38042 Grenoble Cedex 9
Dear Almudena, you have to consider what type of questions you want to answer from your PDB file - the term 'reliable' has to be put into context. The level of detail you could derive from a 2A resolution probably does not depend much on the coordinate uncertainty, so I dare say both models are equally reliable for common applications (assuming validation procedures have been taken into account at common sense). The coordinate uncertainty also depends on the uncertainty of the cell dimensions, and as far as I know these are not recorded in a PDB or MTZ file. Best regards, Tim On Tuesday 28 February 2017 02:50:01 PM Almudena Ponce Salvatierra wrote: > Dear all, > > I would like to know how the estimated coordinate error is calculated in > phenix.refine, the one that is written on the pdb file as "ML based". > > I'm asking due to the following: > > For example if I am comparing two different models (structures determined > at 2.1 and 2 Angstroms) but one does have a coordinate error estimate of > 0.25 Angstroms and the other one of 0.6, respectively. Is the first model > more reliable? The second one is reliable too but my question points > towards how conservative or how more conservative should I be when > describing distances , potential H bonds, coordination. Despite those > different numbers in estimated coordinate error, the electron density maps > look very similar or almost the same for both structures, very clear and > complete at 2 Angstroms. That's why I was somehow surprised to find these > difference. > > Thank you very much in advance > > Best > > Almudena > > > > -- > Dr. Almudena Ponce-Salvatierra > EMBL-European Molecular Biology Laboratory > 71, avenue des Martyrs - CS 90181 > F - 38042 Grenoble Cedex 9 -- -- Paul Scherrer Institut Dr. Tim Gruene - persoenlich - Principal Investigator Biology and Chemistry OFLC/104 CH-5232 Villigen PSI Phone: +41 (0)56 310 5297 GPG Key ID = A46BEE1A
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Almudena Ponce Salvatierra
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Pavel Afonine
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Tim Gruene