positive density around heavy metals
Hi everyone, I have refined a protein with a metal-chelate complex at 1.4 resolution and saw positive density around some metals that are on a two fold. I refined those chelator complexes with fixed occupancy to avoid the negative density seen around it as they are partially occupied. Also I had to avoid xyz refinement after fixing them on special position, to avoid moving away from two fold. I have attached a figure of one of those complexes. If I increase occupancy then it shows negative density. How can I get rid of this positive density. Thanks in advance for the help Subhani
On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 9:05 AM, Subhani Bandara
I have refined a protein with a metal-chelate complex at 1.4 resolution and saw positive density around some metals that are on a two fold. I refined those chelator complexes with fixed occupancy to avoid the negative density seen around it as they are partially occupied. Also I had to avoid xyz refinement after fixing them on special position, to avoid moving away from two fold. I have attached a figure of one of those complexes. If I increase occupancy then it shows negative density. How can I get rid of this positive density.
Are you using anisotropic B-factor refinement? If not, making the metal anisotropic might help (and at 1.4A, there's a good chance you can refine the non-hydrogen protein atoms anisotropically too). But the difference density could also be just Fourier truncation artifacts - these are pretty common around heavy atoms. If anisotropy doesn't fix the problem, I'd just ignore it. -Nat
Does phenix.refine use wavelength dependent form factor corrections for heavy (> C,N,O,S ) atoms? This is quite helpful for eliminating FoFc density around metal centers .. especially if you took the data near an edge. F On Mar 28, 2012, at 10:18 AM, Nathaniel Echols wrote:
On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 9:05 AM, Subhani Bandara
wrote: I have refined a protein with a metal-chelate complex at 1.4 resolution and saw positive density around some metals that are on a two fold. I refined those chelator complexes with fixed occupancy to avoid the negative density seen around it as they are partially occupied. Also I had to avoid xyz refinement after fixing them on special position, to avoid moving away from two fold. I have attached a figure of one of those complexes. If I increase occupancy then it shows negative density. How can I get rid of this positive density.
Are you using anisotropic B-factor refinement? If not, making the metal anisotropic might help (and at 1.4A, there's a good chance you can refine the non-hydrogen protein atoms anisotropically too).
But the difference density could also be just Fourier truncation artifacts - these are pretty common around heavy atoms. If anisotropy doesn't fix the problem, I'd just ignore it.
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On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 9:25 AM, Francis E Reyes
Does phenix.refine use wavelength dependent form factor corrections for heavy (> C,N,O,S ) atoms?
No, but you can refine the anomalous scattering coefficients (group_anomalous strategy) - my naive assumption is that this would do more or less what you describe. -Nat
Hi Subhani, here is some text that I posted on a bb a while ago, so I'm copy-pasting it with some minor updates: These could be Fourier series truncation ripples or residual density features that are typically more pronounced for heavier atoms at higher resolutions. Some relevant information to have a look: 1) Pages 19-21, 30, 32, 33 here: http://www.phenix-online.org/presentations/latest/pavel_maps.pdf 2) CCP4 Newsletter http://www.ccp4.ac.uk/newsletters/newsletter42/content.html On the Fourier series truncation peaks at subatomic resolution Anne Bochow, Alexandre Urzhumtsev 3) Central Ligand in the FeMo-Cofactor Nitrogenase MoFe-Protein at 1.16 Å Resolution: A. Oliver Einsle, et al. Science, 1696 (2002) 297 4) Page 267 Figure 4: On the possibility of the observation of valence electron density for individual bonds in proteins in conventional difference maps P. V. Afonine, V. Y. Lunin, N. Muzet and A. Urzhumtsev Acta Cryst. (2004). D60, 260-274 Suggestions for refinement are: 1) make sure the atom is not pulled out of density by incorrectly defined/applied restraints or their absence. 2) if site may be partially occupied then try occupancy refinement; 3) refine anisotropic ADP for this site; 4) try f' and f'' refinement if applicable; 5) try more refinement macro-cycles: achieving convergence of refinement of occupancy/b-factor may take longer. 6) if none of 1)-5) helped and you are convinced that this is Fourier truncation effect then leave it alone. Pavel. On 3/28/12 9:05 AM, Subhani Bandara wrote:
Hi everyone,
I have refined a protein with a metal-chelate complex at 1.4 resolution and saw positive density around some metals that are on a two fold. I refined those chelator complexes with fixed occupancy to avoid the negative density seen around it as they are partially occupied. Also I had to avoid xyz refinement after fixing them on special position, to avoid moving away from two fold. I have attached a figure of one of those complexes. If I increase occupancy then it shows negative density. How can I get rid of this positive density.
Thanks in advance for the help
Subhani
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Francis E Reyes
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Nathaniel Echols
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Pavel Afonine
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Subhani Bandara