Hi everybody,

 

Inversely to what Pavel wrote, just if you want to get a limited-resolution map of the Coulomb potential (and not anything else), eventually with a resolution that varies over the map regions, Section 5.2 of the manuscript

 

https://arxiv.org/abs/2412.14350

 

exactly explains how to do this. I guess, if this critical, Phenix teams can routinely add such an option.

 

With best wishes,

 

Sacha Urzhumtsev

 

De : Pavel Afonine <[email protected]>
Envoyé : mercredi 2 avril 2025 20:54
À : James Holton <[email protected]>; [email protected]; [email protected]
Objet : [phenixbb] Re: Simulate map from model

 

Hi,

additionally:

- If you want an exact map (not a finite-resolution Fourier map), use:

phenix.model_map model.pdb scattering_table=electron

- We are close to making a multipolar model available for density calculations, which—if I understand correctly—is what you need to simulate Coulomb potential maps. This feature is not yet available to general Phenix users, but if you send me the model off-list, I can generate and send the map back to you.

Pavel

On 4/2/25 10:52, James Holton wrote:

Ostensibly, all you need to do is run phenix.fmodel with scattering_table=electron .  And perhaps try to come up with what k_sol should be for the bulk solvent density.  There are caveats, of course, not the least of which is that, last I checked, the modified scattering from formal charges like ions vs neutral groups is not implemented.  I don't actually know of a program that handles things like charges. I've heard rumors that someone was working on full QM calculations of electrons moving through matter to try and get this "right", but I have not heard about any progress for some time.

Sorry can't be more helpful,

-James

On 4/2/2025 4:52 AM, Ricardo Righetto wrote:

Hi,

 

Apologies if I'm missing something obvious, but I was not able to find this in the documentation: is there a PHENIX tool for simulating Coulomb potential maps (aka "cryo-EM maps") from atomic models?

 

I'm looking for something like the molmap command in ChimeraX, but more accurate. One such alternative is the simulate program from cisTEM, but I figured PHENIX might also have something?

 

Thank you!

 

--
Ricardo Diogo Righetto



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