My concern is about the twin fraction refined in phenix.refine, which is indicated as 0.50, in contract to 0.36 suggested by phenix.xtriage. Therefore, I'd like to get a detwinned data and then subject it to phenix.refine.

The twin las I'm using is "h, -k,-l" in C2 space group.

Thanks,

Hua

On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 5:13 PM, Peter Zwart <[email protected]> wrote:

Hi,

For what do you need detwinned data? What is your twin fraction / law?
When twin fraction is above 45%, algebraic detwinning will give weird results.

Phase info with twinned refinement is not possible with phenix.refine.

P

2008/10/8 Ralf W. Grosse-Kunstleve <[email protected]>:

>> I've used the phenix.refine with its detwin function. Is there any way to
>> have a detwinned data output so that I can use it for other things.
>> I tried use CCP4 detwin with the same twin law and twin fraction obtained
>> from Phenix. However, this didn't work.
>
> I hope Peter will comment on this.
>
>> Another question is whether I can use "some" phase information, say from DM
>> into Phenix? I tried to include the PHIDM but Phenix complained about it
>> saying "wrong array".
>
> phenix.refine needs Hendrickson-Lattman coefficients. Often they are
> called HA,HB,HC,HD. I'm not sure if DM produces Hendrickson-Lattman
> coefficients, but it seems highly likely. You should be able to
> simply give the DM file with the Hendrickson-Lattman coefficients to
> phenix.refine; it should pick the arrays automatically. If your Fobs
> and R-free flags are also in the DM file (in addition to the original
> data file), phenix.refine may prompt you to specify which copy
> you want. Then add one of the phenix.refine suggestions to the
> phenix.refine command line.
>
> Ralf
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