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autobuild wizard question
by Jeff Habel 17 Aug '07

17 Aug '07

I'm a new PHENIX user and having trouble with the Autobuild wizard. The structure has 2 molecules in the asymmetric unit and I am trying to build a small portion (286-297) of both chains. I have tried building both at the same time and trying just chain A but always receive the error about needing 2 amino acids on either end for anchoring the build. Every time I alter the build range (284... 299... 282... 301... etc) the error persists. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks, -Jeff **************************************** Jeff Habel PhD Scripps Florida Drug Discovery 5353 Parkside Dr, RF-1 Rm 102 Jupiter, FL 33458 Phone: 561-799-8849 Fax: 561-799-8957 Email: jhabel(a)scripps.edu *****************************************

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Re: [phenixbb] TLS refinement
by Pavel Afonine 17 Aug '07

17 Aug '07

Hi John, > I was wondering if there is an easy way to take the output from TLSmd > and input the definitions into phenix.refine. Unfortunately, I do not know since it never happened to me to use it. It is our long term plan to implement our own automatic TLS domains identification option. > If any one has an example file of a phenix TLS file with multiple TLS > definitions per chain I would love to have it (The manual just gives > an example of TLS definitions of one per chain, but I am getting > confused on how to define mutlitple). I'm loading two files at the web address below: one with TLS selections for multiple groups, another one is the PDB file with refined model and TLS records in its header. This is actually the most complex selection for TLS groups I ever used -:) http://cci.lbl.gov/~afonine/tls_selections/ Please let me know if you have any more questions. Pavel.

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TLS refinement
by John Bruning 17 Aug '07

17 Aug '07

Hi, I was wondering if there is an easy way to take the output from TLSmd and input the definitions into phenix.refine. If any one has an example file of a phenix TLS file with multiple TLS definitions per chain I would love to have it (The manual just gives an example of TLS definitions of one per chain, but I am getting confused on how to define mutlitple). Thanks, John Bruning

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Re: [phenixbb] Question about precedence of command line parameters vs. .def file
by Ralf W. Grosse-Kunstleve 14 Aug '07

14 Aug '07

Hi Carsten, > I see how the loading of both pdb files can be a desired feature, but I > also recall reading somewhere that command line params take precedence > over .def files, which in turn takes precedence over defaults. There > seems to be some deviation from that philosophy. Each parameter has a bunch of associated attributes to control the behavior. The attribute that causes trouble here is .multiple=True. It means that you can specify multiple values. Values accumulate in the order given. .multiple=True is used in many places and in general this feature works well, but in the case of the pdb file name it sometimes causes confusion. Unfortunately I don't see an obvious way around this. It would be possible to support something like pdb.file_name==your.pdb, where == means discard all accumulated values and start over with the new value, but that wouldn't be very intuitive. Or we'd have to stop supporting reading of multiple pdb files. I wonder if you could achieve your goals with a different approach. The idea is not to use the .def files produced by phenix.refine. I'm guessing you're doing this because they contain all your accumulated customizations defined via the command line. Could you organize your workflow to accumulate the customizations in a separate file, then pass that file as another argument? E.g.: Content of "params" file: refinement.main.macro_cycles=5 refinement.main.high_resolution=3 phenix.refine my.pdb params > This also would help future automation we are implementing, because > it would eliminate the need to read and parse an existing .def. file. Parsing and rewriting a .def file is very easy from Python. If you have phenix, you also have both Python and a parameter file parser and writer. The "phil" parser/writer is documented in this newsletter article: http://cci.lbl.gov/publications/download/iucrcompcomm_jan2005.pdf I could help you getting started if that's an interesting alternative. If you can think of a more intuitive way of handling the interaction of parameters with multiple values and command-line parameters, please let me know! Ralf

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Question about precedence of command line parameters vs. .def file
by Schubert, Carsten [PRDUS] 14 Aug '07

14 Aug '07

Hi, I have a question / request about parameters defined on the command line vs. defined in the .def file are handled. Specifically the input.pdb.file_name parameter. I noticed that if I have already a input.pdb.file_name defined in the .def file and call phenix.refine with another pdb file, both files are loaded. If both pdb files represent the same protein in different stages of refinement that obviously causes the job to fail due to close non-bonding interactions. I see how the loading of both pdb files can be a desired feature, but I also recall reading somewhere that command line params take precedence over .def files, which in turn takes precedence over defaults. There seems to be some deviation from that philosophy. For me this is more a work-flow issue (which becomes important if one does to many structures per day ...) than a bug. I'd really like to minimize the time spend on editing the def file and just define new job parameters from the command line and have the def file fill in the missing bits. This also would help future automation we are implementing, because it would eliminate the need to read and parse an existing .def. file. There are ways around this but not as clean, but that is another matter .... Would it be possible to implement a switch which would check for duplicate parameters on the command line vs. .def file, give precedence to the command line and run the job like that? That way we would not break the existing scheme, which other people may have already grown accustomed too. Other suggestions are welcome too. Cheers, Carsten

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conversion from h3 to r3 with phenix apps
by Green, Todd 14 Aug '07

14 Aug '07

Hello all, I have what i believe to be a rhombohedral crystal that has an insanely large cell with the hexagonal setting: 533.026 533.026 652.887 90.000 90.000 120.000 and a modestly large cell comparatively with the rhombohedral setting: 377 377 377 90 90 90 I should be able to easily reindex to the smaller cell in scalepack but for some reason i'm not getting it to work correctly. Rather than struggle further on a friday afternoon, i figured that i'd give a phenix app a try. i assume xtriage can do this, can someone point me in the correct direction? thanks in advance- Todd

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refinement questions
by Sudharsan Sridharan 10 Aug '07

10 Aug '07

Hi all, I'm starting to refine a structure using phenix.refine. Almost all my model residues have been built starting from a Sharp map. I've been trying phenix.refine with and without SA and getting bond angle rmsds of 1.0 -1.1 (2.5 A data, using mlhl targets; example below) (yet to add water and also trying water picking in phenix.refine). I'm wondering if this sounds low (I have read discussions on bond and angle rmsds). More importantly I'd like to know how to work with different parameters (weights etc) during refinement in phenix. Could you please point to what params are safe to manipulate. Thanks, Sid. REMARK ******************** REFINEMENT SUMMARY: QUICK FACTS ******************* REMARK Start: r_work = 0.3637 r_free = 0.4003 bonds = 0.010 angles = 1.175 REMARK Final: r_work = 0.2607 r_free = 0.3236 bonds = 0.007 angles = 1.017 REMARK ************************************************************************

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Position for PSI Knowledgebase development
by Paul Adams 07 Aug '07

07 Aug '07

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ncs restraints weight
by Daniele de Sanctis 06 Aug '07

06 Aug '07

Dear all, i'm refining a low resolution structure (3.2A) with four molecules in the asymmetric unit. I saw that phenix.refine doesn't allow constraints, so i'd like to change the restraints weight but i can't find the right keyword... thanks for your help d -- Daniele de Sanctis, PhD Homo sum humani nil alienum a me puto ______________________________________________________________ phone ++ 351 21 4469 662 fax ++ 351 21 4433 664 e-mail de.sanctisd(a)gmail.com, sanctis(a)itqb.unl.pt Mailing address: ITQB, Av. República, Apartato 127 2781-901 Oeiras Portugal

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Re: [phenixbb] set_biso_to_wilson_b gone?
by Pavel Afonine 05 Aug '07

05 Aug '07

Hi Luca, > I've just noticed that in the last version of PHENIX (1.3b-d7) this is > not recognised anymore: > > refinement.modify_start_model.adp.set_biso_to_wilson_b = true > > is this intentional? I'm afraid, yes. There are some technical reasons for this. You still have at least two ways of doing this: 1) When running phenix.refine : % phenix.refine data.mtz model.pdb modify_start_model.adp.set_b_iso=xxx where xxx is Wilson B values (that you may get from previous phenix.refine runs; phenix.refine reports it). 2) We recently added a tool for PDB file(s) manipulations. Currently it is very simple but will grow based on needs and user's requests. For example, it can read in a model and for selected or all atoms: - modify ADP (randomize, shift, set to a value, scale, convert to/from iso(aniso)tropic); - modify sites (shake, apply rotation / translation); - modify occupancies; - remove selected atoms; - write out a PDB file with modified model. To get started type: phenix.pdbtools -h I'm attaching a copy of a quick manual for phenix.pdbtools (it will be a part of new updated PHENIX documentation). Pavel.

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