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Re: [phenixbb] native Patterson peak
by Peter Zwart 01 May '08

01 May '08

31 is not too bad actually. When you have such a PT peak, I would consider only an even number of copies in the ASU. When entering desperate mode, I would try all possible P2x2y2z flavors even though your systematic absences might be clear. Of course, experimental phases could be a good solution. HTH P 2008/5/1 David Garboczi <dgarboczi(a)niaid.nih.gov>: > We have datasets measured on crystals of a 19 kD protein that are > P212121, with cell constants of 66, 75, 136. > > Matthew's considerations say 3, 4, or 5 copies per au are probable. > > xtriage finds a native peak at (0.0, -0.5, 0.036) that is 31 in > height (origin=100) > > No self-rotation function peaks in xprep, that I can understand. > > Is this clearly translational symmetry that is making MR difficult? > > Hints as to how to go forward are welcome. > > thanks, > > Dave > > > -- > David N. Garboczi, PhD > Phone: 301-496-4773 > Investigator, Structural Biology Section (SBS) > Laboratory of Immunogenetics (LIG) > National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) > National Institutes of Health (NIH) > Twinbrook 2/Room 110 > 12441 Parklawn Drive > Rockville, Maryland 20852-1742 > Fax: 301-402-0284 > Email: dgarboczi(a)niaid.nih.gov > > > > > _______________________________________________ > phenixbb mailing list > phenixbb(a)phenix-online.org > http://www.phenix-online.org/mailman/listinfo/phenixbb > -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- P.H. Zwart Beamline Scientist Berkeley Center for Structural Biology Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratories 1 Cyclotron Road, Berkeley, CA-94703, USA Cell: 510 289 9246 BCSB: http://bcsb.als.lbl.gov PHENIX: http://www.phenix-online.org CCTBX: http://cctbx.sf.net -----------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: [phenixbb] [ccp4bb] Need Solve/Resolve advice [shameless crosspost to phenixbb]
by Peter Zwart 30 Apr '08

30 Apr '08

Hi, (sorry for the crosspost / jumping between bb's), but I don't like advertising phenix on the ccp4bb. If new to Solve (or old as well), try using phenix.autosol. The gui is relatively intuitive, the command line (at least for SAD) as simple as possible and the documentation is very thorough. Before running autosol, try running xtriage and find out if you have translational pseudo symmetry. If you have more then a single molecule in the ASU, there will be NCS, unless all molecules have *extremely* different conformations. The NCS might not be proper/closed though. HTH Peter 2008/4/30 Megan Guelker <megdg(a)rice.edu>: > CCP4bb subcribers, > > I am a new user to Solve/Resolve and am using it on a Mad dataset. Solve > outputs three sites: > > pdb coordinates fractional coordinates > -15.833 35.392 38.440 0.0486 0.4315 0.1615 > 7.834 76.449 38.475 0.5487 0.9320 0.1617 > 16.310 60.866 37.449 0.5432 0.7420 0.1574 > > I noticed that the fractional coordinates for the first two sites are > separated by 0.5 units in x and y, and they appear to be the same site from > looking at the density surrounding them. I know that Solve can output some > sites with repetition if they are results from different seeds. > > I have tried running Solve again with ADDSOLVE and these sites as input (all > three and combinations of the three) and have not been able to pull out any > additional sites. I have also tried using various resolution ranges for > Solve. The same three sites are always output. > > The FOM for the map produced by Solve is 0.45. Resolve improves the FOM to > 0.66. > > The protein has 148 aa with 4 Se sites per protein. The crystals are in > space group P3221, and there are six copies per asymetric unit. There is no > non-crystallographic symmetry. > > I am a new user to Solve, and haven't been able to find an explanation for > why the output sites are so similar and separated by 0.5 units. Does anyone > have any experience with this type of result? I would appreciate any input > and suggestions on how to locate additional sites. > > Thank you for your consideration, > Megan Guelker > > -- > Megan Guelker > Graduate Student > Rice University > Department of Biochemistry & Cell Biology > 6100 Main St. - MS 140 > Houston, TX 77005 > 713-348-2492 (lab) > megdg(a)rice.edu > -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- P.H. Zwart Beamline Scientist Berkeley Center for Structural Biology Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratories 1 Cyclotron Road, Berkeley, CA-94703, USA Cell: 510 289 9246 BCSB: http://bcsb.als.lbl.gov PHENIX: http://www.phenix-online.org CCTBX: http://cctbx.sf.net -----------------------------------------------------------------

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Refining low resolution structure
by Humberto Pereira 29 Apr '08

29 Apr '08

Dear all I was trying to refining a low resolution structure with Phenix. The crystal belongs to the SG P6122 with one monomer per ASU. The monomer contains approximately 270 residues. There isn't any NCS operators. The crystal diffracts up to 4.0 Angstrons, with good statistics, however I have only 4204 unique reflections. I solved the structure by MR by Phaser and the solution was quite reasonably. Initially I performed a phenix refining cicle with SA + rigid body, however the Rs values is very divergent (43 and 59%), so I decided to use the key xray_data.r_free_flags.ignore_r_free_flags=true in order to save my precious reflections with and without SA, and I also use the group_adp., in those cases the R is about 39-40%. I want a help to decide the best refinement strategies for low resolution refinement with phenix. BTW I'm trying to produce some different constructions of the gene, expecting improve the resolution. Thanks Humberto

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optimize_wxc won't run
by Nian Huang 29 Apr '08

29 Apr '08

Dear All, I am a novel phenix user. There is a problem whenever I use option optimize_wxc in phenix. The error message looks like following, ----------xray term weight optimization (wxc)---------- Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/local/data1/nhuang/progs/phenix-1.3b-rc6/phenix/phenix/command_line/refine.py", line 5, in <module> command_line.run(command_name="phenix.refine", args=sys.argv[1:]) File "/usr/local/data1/nhuang/progs/phenix-1.3b-rc6/phenix/phenix/refinement/command_line.py", line 82, in run call_back_after_monitor_collect=call_back_after_monitor_collect) File "/usr/local/data1/nhuang/progs/phenix-1.3b-rc6/phenix/phenix/refinement/driver.py", line 1143, in run call_back_after_monitor_collect = call_back_after_monitor_collect) File "/usr/local/data1/nhuang/progs/phenix-1.3b-rc6/phenix/phenix/refinement/strategies.py", line 449, in refinement_machine log = log) File "/usr/local/data1/nhuang/progs/phenix-1.3b-rc6/phenix/phenix/refinement/weight_xray_chem.py", line 256, in __init__ self.wxc_optimization() File "/usr/local/data1/nhuang/progs/phenix-1.3b-rc6/phenix/phenix/refinement/weight_xray_chem.py", line 511, in wxc_optimization wxc = self.holder.wxc AttributeError: weight instance has no attribute 'holder' I don't know what's the problem. Could it be my installation? Nian Huang, Ph.D. Dept. of Biochemsitry UT Southwestern Medical Center

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"gnomebreakpad": libgnomebreakpad.so: error
by shivesh kumar 23 Apr '08

23 Apr '08

Dear all, We are using Fefora core 8. To start phenix, we give the command phenix in the terminal, after 30-40 minutes it shows the following error message *Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "gnomebreakpad": libgnomebreakpad.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory and after 1hr of this message the GUI comes.There is no problem in running phenix afterwards and also with any other programs like CCP4, CNS etc... I have put this query earlier also and I got reply as follows yum install bug-buddy It didn't work for us.If anyone can suggest the solution, it would be very helpful for us.Thanx in advance. shivesh *

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twinning analysis
by Andreas Förster 23 Apr '08

23 Apr '08

Hey all, I've been digging around with a nasty dataset for a while, twinning, pseudosymmetry, etc. Phenix.xtriage has helped me make some guesses as to what's going on, but phenix.twin_map_utils fails. I used an mtz file obtained from XDS via f2mtz and cad as xray data, like so: phenix.twin_map_utils xray_data.file=blah.mtz model=blah.pdb unit_cell=86.623,86.623,121.357,90,90,120 space_group=P65 Here's the error: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/local/2008_02_08_1610/cci_apps_sources/mmtbx/mmtbx/command_line/twin_map_utils.py", line 7, in <module> twin_map_utils.run(args=sys.argv[1:]) File "/usr/local/2008_02_08_1610/cci_apps_sources/mmtbx/mmtbx/twinning/twin_map_utils.py", line 256, in run tmp_params = utils.r_free_flags_params.extract() AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'r_free_flags_params' I see the error on a recent macbook pro with current cci_apps. How can I get around it? Thanks Andreas ps. I apologize if that question posted to the board earlier. I wrote from a wrong account.

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NCS problem
by Bobby Huether 22 Apr '08

22 Apr '08

Hello, My structure contains 2 protein molecules in the asymmetric unit, and they are related by 2-fold rotational NCS to form a dimer. The refinement is nearing completion (1.7 A) and the solvent molecules are now being included. A blob of density has been tentatively identified as being occupied by glycerol, which was present as the cryo-protectant. The issue is that this blob of density lies on the 2-fold NCS rotation axis, and so we need to use 2 glycerol molecules within this density, each at 0.5 occupancy, to conform to the NCS symmetry. This blob of density lies in a surface pocket formed by residues from both NCS-related proteins. When we build in the 2 glycerol molecules and then use phenix.refine, the two glycerols are pushed out of density. Presumably this is because phenix.refine is interpreting this situation as two glycerol molecules sitting on top of on another rather than interpreting it as being a model for a disordered ligand. Can phenix.refine handle this situation? Thanks, Robert

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Omit map around a ligand
by mathieu Coincon 22 Apr '08

22 Apr '08

Hi, I tried to use phenix.autobuild to generate a SA-omit map around a non-protein residue but I didn't succeed. Can someone give me a recipe? (perhaps with file from the ligand fit examples.... ;-) ) Thanks. Have a nice day. Mathieu. ____________ Mathieu Coinçon Biochemistry PhD Student Université de Montréal (+1)514-343-6111 #5352

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Re: [phenixbb] Phenix on Altix 350 ?
by Sankar Narayanan Manicka 21 Apr '08

21 Apr '08

Dear Sir, Sorry for the delay. It was a long weekend here. the output of /etc/*release SUSE LINUX Enterprise Server 9 (ia64) VERSION = 9 PATCHLEVEL = 3 SGI ProPack 4SP3 for Linux, Build 403r1-0512182217 sincerely sankar Ralf W. Grosse-Kunstleve wrote: >> Yes, I could install the CCI_apps Source without any problem. And i ran >> the file "test_apps" without any problem. >> > > Great! > Chances are the next full Phenix source installer will also work. > > If you get a chance, could you send the output of > > cat /etc/*release > > uname -a > > boost_adaptbx.show_platform_info > > Thanks! > Ralf > > > -- ****************************************************************** Sankar N. Manicka C/o Prof. S. Krishnaswamy Dept. of Genetic engineering School of Biotechnology Madurai Kamaraj University Madurai 625 021 TN INDIA mailto: sankar(a)mkustrbioinfo.com ******************************************************************

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random seed to phenix.reflection_file_converter
by iulek＠interponta.com.br 18 Apr '08

18 Apr '08

Hi, Is there a way to provide a random seed to "phenix.reflection_file_converter" such that two runs will produce the same result (the same reflection set flagged as free)? What would be the syntax? For while I could only find for the context of refinement and simulated annealing ... Thanks, Jorge

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