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seeking help about running SCALEPACK2mtz
by chen c 26 Jun '14

26 Jun '14

Dear PHENIXBBers: I'e got a problem about data processing when running SCALEPACK2mtz. Hope you can give me some advice on that. Here's my problem: I have an .sca file processed by HKL2000 about 4 years ago, I just ran the Scalepack2mtz program in order to transform it into .mtz file. However, the program keeps running. To ensure that the Scalepack2mtz program is ok, I use another .sca file for verification and it turns out that this file for verification is successfully transformed into .mtz file within seconds. I checked the .log file, the program keeps running when there are the following messeages: "Mean acentric moments I from input data: <I^2>/^2 = 2.360 (Expected = 2.000, Perfect Twin = 1.500) <I^3>/^3 = 9.187 (Expected value = 6.000, Perfect Twin = 3.000) <I^4>/^4 = 52.348 (Expected value = 24.000, Perfect Twin = 7.500) Mean acentric moments I from anisotropically corrected data: <I^2>/^2 = 3.121 (Expected = 2.000, Perfect Twin = 1.500) <I^3>/^3 = 12.788 (Expected value = 6.000, Perfect Twin = 3.000) <I^4>/^4 = 57.952 (Expected value = 24.000, Perfect Twin = 7.500) " does this means that the .sca file isn't processed properly? I also checked the scale.log file, and there are the following messages: " Shell Summary of observation redundancies: Lower Upper % of reflections with given No. of observations limit limit 0 1 2 3 4 5-6 7-8 9-12 13-19 >19 total 50.00 5.60 5.9 6.1 18.0 15.1 26.9 19.7 8.3 0.0 0.0 0.0 94.1 5.60 4.45 7.9 9.4 13.0 12.9 23.2 27.5 6.1 0.0 0.0 0.0 92.1 4.45 3.88 19.2 5.6 13.3 13.5 20.4 21.9 6.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 80.8 3.88 3.53 31.9 6.5 11.6 11.3 14.9 17.9 5.8 0.0 0.0 0.0 68.1 3.53 3.28 2.4 4.7 11.3 15.3 23.5 34.1 8.7 0.0 0.0 0.0 97.6 3.28 3.08 0.2 3.6 7.0 15.4 23.7 40.1 9.9 0.0 0.0 0.0 99.8 3.08 2.93 0.4 4.4 8.7 16.8 21.1 41.3 7.2 0.0 0.0 0.0 99.6 2.93 2.80 4.2 8.0 12.7 15.2 20.3 33.7 6.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 95.8 2.80 2.69 15.4 9.1 14.0 13.8 19.2 25.2 3.3 0.0 0.0 0.0 84.6 2.69 2.60 31.6 16.2 11.7 14.2 13.7 10.6 2.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 68.4 All hkl 11.8 7.3 12.2 14.4 20.8 27.1 6.4 0.0 0.0 0.0 88.2 " This clearly indicates an ice ring problem in the data-collection process. However, the ice ring problem shouldn't have caused the error during the .sca to .mtz process. In fact, I have use it for structure-solvement, and currently the two R factor is around 30%. However, the large deviation of <I^3>/^3 or <I^4>/^4 do means something wrong. Would you tell me what exact mistakes did I make? Can I use this .sca file for subsequent structure solving and refinement? Great thanks for your help! best regards chen

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Anisotropic B-factor restraints
by Elke De Zitter 26 Jun '14

26 Jun '14

Dear All I'm refining a protein structure with a resolution of 1.25 A, using Phenix GUI version 1.9. I am refining the B-factors for the protein atoms anisotropic and those for the water molecules isotropic. How can I restrain the anisotropic B-factors so that bonded atoms have similar ellipsoids (like the SIMU and DELU commands in Shelx making the atoms moving similarly in direction and amount)? Thanks Elke Elke De Zitter PhD student, KU Leuven Biochemistry, Molecular and Structural Biology Celestijnenlaan 200f - bus 2404, 3001 Leuven Room 00.84, +32 16 3 26530

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Combining phases?
by Yuri 26 Jun '14

26 Jun '14

Dear All, Im struggling with a structure. I have a good native data set with resolution 2.1A and a data set with ok stats collect at low energy trying to extract some anomalous signal from intrinsic sulphur atoms (6/ASU/400aa). Using a model of one of the domains I got a MolRep solution that has somewhat convincing features in the electron density maps some portions of the structure but not in others. I also ran HySS and obtained some coordinates for the 6 sulphur atoms but the map here is uninterpretable. Xtriage suggests the anomalous is only good until about 8A so I am not that surprised. Is there any way I can try to combine my putative MolRep model and phases with the sulphur anomlaous signal and maybe get better maps to build into? If so, how would I do that using PHENIX? thanks for the help -- Yuri Pompeu, Ph.D.

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GRC/GRS Diffraction Methods
by Anastassis Perrakis 25 Jun '14

25 Jun '14

Dear all, I am sorry to send one more post to the already overloaded bb, but please let me remind you for the last time that the deadline for applications for the GRC and the GRS is approaching, and is only three days from now. http://www.grc.org/programs.aspx?id=11654 We are all looking forward to welcome you at Bates College in a month from now, and we do hope for a few more last minute participations: we need all of you to make it as exciting and fun as possible! Best regards, Tassos

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Multiple Metal Sites in Autosol
by Ryan Henry Gumpper 24 Jun '14

24 Jun '14

??Hello All, ?I have a question regarding the metal assignments when using Autosol to process SAD datasets. I am new to field and I want to make sure that I am doing things correctly. My enzyme should contain 2 metal sites, one with Cu and one with Fe. We collected data at the Fe-edge, the Cu-PreEdge, and the Cu-Edge for a comparison. When I tell Autosol to search for 1 Cu site, using the Cu-Edge data, and another heavy atom Fe, it finds 33 sites all Cu with 2 being Fe. Likewise, using the same dataset, when I include S as an additional anomalous scattering moiety, it will find 1 Cu in the correct position and 32 S atoms--my protein does not contain 32 S atoms. Finally, when I include every possibility that was in my crystallization buffer, this includes a fairly high concentration of MgCl2, and I tell it to search for 1 Cu site with the additional heavy atoms being Fe, S, Mg, and Cl, it seems that it is able to assign the Cu correctly, however it now gives Mg coordinated with Cu instead of H2O molecules, and this is not possible. Should I include Mg and Cl in the search? And S? Also, why would it not be finding the Fe? Furthermore, and most importantly, why is it assigning so many heavy atom sites? I am having similar problems with the other two data sets as well. Thank you very much in advance! Regards, Ryan Gumpper

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Re: [phenixbb] Iron (FE2) metalloprotein
by Nathaniel Echols 24 Jun '14

24 Jun '14

On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 1:11 AM, Egor Tchesnokov < etchesnokov(a)chemistry.otago.ac.nz> wrote: > Thank you for the comment. > The model I use for Phaser is coming from Sculptor, so it does not have > heteroatoms. > I introduce heteroatom (Fe) only after Phaser. I use Phaser-EP to find it, > eventhough it is obvious from the density. Then I merge Fe and Phaser.pdb > in Coot after which I feed it to ReadySet. So the pdb that I give to Refine > either have Fe with occupancy of 1, <1 or >1 (I tried both). I use PDB > editor to add charge, but the outcome is still the same. After refinement > Fe occupancy is either 1 or very close. > My apologies, I misinterpreted your message. Is this just a case of "name that blob?" If so, I suggest posting images of the density around the iron to the list (and probably ccp4bb as well) asking for suggestions. It's very likely that someone will have encountered similar density before. -Nat

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Iron (FE2) metalloprotein
by Egor Tchesnokov 24 Jun '14

24 Jun '14

Hello, Active site contains iron (FE2) coordinated by three histidines. After Phaser the active site does not contain un-explained green density. After Refinement blobs of various shapes appear in the vicinity and upto 3-4A of active site iron. Refinement is done using occupancy and anomalous of iron options. Buffers do not contain molecules that could fit in those blobs. Any suggestions? Thank you Egor

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Geometry problems
by Yarrow Madrona 23 Jun '14

23 Jun '14

Hello, I have a ligand bound to a heme and I have supplied a CIF for phenix in refinement. I did not include all atoms just, those close to the iron. Unfortunately, I am getting very large reported bond deviations for other atoms. For example I get: bond pdb="FE HEM A 410 " pdb=" N3 CPZ A 500 " ideal model delta sigma weight residual 2.100 4.054 -1.954 2.00e-01 2.50e+01 9.54e+01 N3 and FE are not bonded and not expected to be close to one another. it is not supported by the structure. I suspect that this is causing my overall bonds deviations to be ~0.03 even if I greatly reduce the weight of wxc. Is it necessary to enter all of these outliers into the .cif file or is there an easier way? Thank you.

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Sulfate at 3-fold axis
by Zhou, Tongqing (NIH/VRC) [E] 23 Jun '14

23 Jun '14

Dear Colleagues, I am refining a structure and there is a SO4 on the 3-fold axis. What I did was to put atom S and O1 on the 3-fold with occ=0.33, and O2 with occ=1, and no O3 and O4 in the pdb (O3 and O4 will be the symmetry of O2). But when I refine it, Phenix complains close non-bounded distances for both S and O1. Is there a way to refine this sulfate? Thanks! Best regards, Tongqing Tongqing Zhou, Ph.D. Staff Scientist Structural Biology Section Vaccine Research Center, NIAID/NIH Building 40, Room 4609B 40 Convent Drive, MSC3027 Bethesda, MD 20892 (301) 594-8710 (Tel) (301) 793-0794 (Cell) (301) 480-2658 (Fax) ****************************************************************************** The information in this e-mail and any of its attachments is confidential and may contain sensitive information. It should not be used by anyone who is not the original intended recipient. If you have received this e-mail in error please inform the sender and delete it from your mailbox or any other storage devices. National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases shall not accept liability for any statements made that are sender's own and not expressly made on behalf of the NIAID by one of its representatives. ******************************************************************

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after updating my system 1.9 1692
by Afshan Begum 23 Jun '14

23 Jun '14

Dear Developers, I am wondering why my system is getting too much slow after update the phenix new version??? before that its take few mints to finish my job but now its take more than 7 hour just finish one job .could you help me regarding this. Many thanks Best Regards AFSHAN

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